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I like your ideas, Kris... call it Perry Mecium and the Amoebae! Sonic Luv, Tim P.S.--David, your piece sounds intriguing...probably kinda like Adrian Belew's insectoid sounds on the Lone Rhino LP. > [Original Message] > From: Hartung, Kris <kris.hartung@hp.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: 6/29/2005 2:21:25 AM > Subject: RE: Doug's gratuitous introspective.... / Live Insect Looping? > > Where is the song, David? It isn't on your download.com page. I > wouldn't mind checking it out. > > I have no doubt many people have incorporated insect sounds into their > music, or even made them the feature. I have even heard of folks > sampling all sorts of insects, and them using them as their sound canvas > with a MIDI controller keyboard, etc....what I really wonder is if > someone has used live insects in a live performance setting. It would be > like me bringing my USB enabled microscope, and showing real protozoa > and amoebae on an overhead projector while I was playing...damn, I wish > I could afford to do that....I'm burning to loop to the video of my DVD > "Microscopic Horrors". > > Imagine seeing creeping stuff like this, at a live performance, while > listening to weird, experimental and avant-garde music: > > http://static.zed.cbc.ca/users/k/khartung/files/Microcosmic_Zoo.wmv > > OR > > http://zed.cbc.ca/go?POS=11&CONTENT_ID=164375&c=contentPage&FILTER_KEY=3 > 670 > > Kris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:48 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Doug's gratuitous introspective.... / Live Insect Looping? > > K - > > You know it's been done... I have a piece called Insekta that I do > (and > also on UN) that sounds a bit like a pile of insects all chatting among > themselves. > > David > UNDO - Ambient Looping Live > http://music.download.com/undo/3600-8357_32-100333286.html?tag=listing_s > ong_artist > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hartung, Kris" <kris.hartung@hp.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:57 PM > Subject: Doug's gratuitous introspective.... / Live Insect Looping? > > > And now you've learned to how to appease a group of irritable, > hair-splitting, obsessive-compulsive SOBs who like everything detailed > and analyzed down to a gnat's ass. :) Yep, looks like you've got your > money's worth with the looping technology. Learning is always a good > thing in my mind....and un-learning sometimes equally as important! > [explanation intentionally left out] > > BTW, I have personally specified the width of a gnat's ass, and I have a > small image to illustrate if anyone is interested.... Heh heh....it's an > old work joke with some engineers, but I do have it and can send on > request to provide hours of amusement. > > ...speaking of which, has anyone looped live insects? For instance, it > would be interesting to have several small glass jars (one inch by inch > approx) with some sort of noise making insect in each jar, and a small > condenser mic in each as well. You could have bees, those hissing > beetles, mosquitoes, and I'm sure there are is a whole micro-menagerie > of insects that make interesting sounds. Then you could apply all sorts > of effects on each one. What maniacal lunatic out there has already > done this? :) Imagine a hissing beetle looped and blasting loud with a > filter and octavizor on it....etc. > > K- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Cox [mailto:dougcox@pdq.net <mailto:dougcox@pdq.net> ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:34 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Doug's gratuitous introspective comment / a band video w/ > basic looping > > Thanks to all for an attempt at translating my comment :) > > What I mean is: > - I've learned to take control of my loops (vs. letting them own the > tempo) via things like loop restart, truncating loops, and loop > windowing > - I've learned to listen much more deeply than I ever have before (note: > I've been playing in various types of bands since I was a teen, I'm 40 > now) > - The band is not playing to a click, and there's no MIDI synching, etc > - I've learned to work the feedback and loop volume parameters in a way > that now feels as natural as working the knobs on my guitar > - I've learned how to make loops "fit" in a band context - better at > thinking ahead melodically so that my loops fit across the changes > - I've learned how to communicate what I'm doing loop-wise with the > band, and how to incorporate looping into our collective thought process > and jamming > - I've learned to show up 15 mins early and do a looping warmup along > with my regular warmup :) > > > >