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Funky stuff! EDP: My problem was, pressing Halfspeed (12) while recording closes the loop and plays it at toggled speed, i.e. it doesn't continue recording. But it works when using alternative SUSToggleSpeed (24), or FULLSPEED (34) and HALFSPEED (35) (See EDP Manual http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf, p. 7-5) (Thanks for the hint, Matthias!) Is there some kind of state diagram available for the EDP? That shows what the functions do depending on the current state of the EDP, something like (e.g. when Insert = HSP (Halfspeed)): Functions: Rec OD Mult Insert Mute Undo Nxt DirMidi... States: Playing Rec'ing OD'ing Mult'ing Playing@HSP Muted etc. Reset Rec'ing IgnoreSyn etc. HSP (armed) etc. Rec'ing Playing OD'ing Mult'ing Playing@HSP etc. Of course this depends on the configuration and there are long presses and DirectMidi commands, too, but still... Thank you Bernhard http://nosuch.biz > -----Original Message----- > From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com] > Sent: Samstag, 25. Juni 2005 00:22 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Fun with time signatures > > > > Hey Loopoids > Here is a cool trick I happened upon that works for any loop device that > can toggle between normal and half speed recording while in record mode. >I > do it on the DL4, but I believe the EDP and The Rang can achieve these > results. I have been able to get predictable results of 3/4, >7/8,9/8,10/8, > and 11/8, by toggling the record speed while looping 8th note figures on > my > guitar. I may have mentioned this trick before, but since then I've > figured > out some more formulas. > To take you through this technique, start by playing a simple straight >8th > note figure on your weapon of choice. Hit record, and every two beats > switch > record speeds, until you complete your loop, making sure that there are > equal numbers of half speed and normal speed beats. the loop you wind up > with will have a 3/4 rhythm (or 6/8 depending on tempo), with a cool > octave > switch (courtesy of the record speed toggling). Rather than go in to a > long > winded explanation about why that is I'll give you the formulas I've come > up > with so far: > > On the left is the pattern of beats I play as I switch record speeds. > Example: to get 9/8, I toggle every 3 beats, 7/8 I alternate 3 8th notes > and > 2 8th notes, etc... > In the middle is the speed I start recording in, H stands for half >speed > and N stands for normal speed. > At right is the resulting time signature. > > > PATTERN SPEED TIME > 2-2 H/N 3/4 > 3-3 H/N 9/8 > 3-2 H 7/8 > 2-3 N 4/4 > 2-3 N 7/8 > 2-3 H 4/4 > 3-4 H 11/8 > 3-4 N 10/8 > 4-3 H 10/8 > 4-3 N 11/8 > > I hope this made sense, there will be some examples of this technique on > my > upcoming Cd, until then, you'll just have to try it to hear it. > Enjoy > Bill