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I've lost track of this thread, but I used to own a Rocktrock MIDI
Patchbay that was a wonderfully convenient device. It had 10 or so independent
stereo inputs-outputs, all of which could be punched in our out via MIDI. They
discontinued the unit, but it was perfect for putting all of your stomp boxes in
a rack (upright and facing out) and punching them in and out of your mix without
the whole serial chain signal hemophelia syndrom. I don't have a use for one
anymore, but I wish I had one anyway.
Kris
I can only talk from my experience with the Rane SM82, which
works great, but this is the first time ever I`ve heard anyone
claim that Behringer is generally of better quality than the
Rane products. And I`ve heard a lot on many rec forums. :-)
The Rane is not perfect and a here are a couple of threads
from rec.audio about changing the opamps for better sonics;
I once mailed Jim Willams regarding a possible upgrade (I`m no
tech head) and the answer I got was;
"I did an extensive mod on one of those
for tonmeister Andrew Lipinsky several years ago. It was OK, but it's tiny power
transformer limits what quality parts can be used. It's probably not worth the
money to do that much work on it unless you have stringent acoustic recording
requirements.
Jim Williams
Audio
Upgrades"
You could do some of your routing ideas with a line mixer like
the SM82. The stereo send and return could be used as two
mono effect loops returning to two free mono channels rather
than using the effect returns. There`s good documentation on the Rane
site;
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:06
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Subject: AW: what about patchbay ?
I'd like to
advise against the smaller Behringer mixers...they are so cheap that they
really ARE cheap. Rule of thumb: do not get one of those below the €100 price
mark. I have to admit I haven't been testing the UB series to a greater
extent, but I do own two MX2642A and firmly believe that this must be the best
mixer ever built for artists with lots of effects (like most of us): six auxes
and four busses, a total of 26 inputs (or 8 mono ins (w/ inserts AND direct
outs), 4 stereo ins, 4 aux returns and one tape return), it's a rackmount
device and its patchbay (which has all the connectors mounted to it, not the
usual inputs and inserts on top, outputs on the rear) can be mounted on the
rear or the bottom (great for rack installation).
Without wanting
to start a flame war, I believe that Behringer gear is of a higher quality in
every aspect than Rane gear. While Mackie does win over Behringer with regard
to reliability, some of the Behringer stuff actually wins with regard to audio
specs.
Rainer
It\s not clear to me if you are looking for a
patchbay or a line mixer.
A patch is great for routing and making gear
accessible but it won`t mix several sourches
down to stereo. I have a couple of the Rane SM82 line mixers and they
are solid and clean sounding. Eight stereo
ins, stereo send and return, balanced stereo out (if needed) etc. The SM26
is a more simple version. Both can be found
on ebay;
Probably several here who use different brands
of line mixers as well as the smaller Mackie and Behringer
mixers.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:48
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Subject: what about patchbay ?
Apart this (it's just to
share...) I know there are
lot of you in this list
having a big knowledge about
mixers and connection
systems.
And as you know there may be
a lot of methods to send the "played" signal
into a loop machine (bus,
alternate outs, out sends, etc...)
What I'd like to know is
if "patchbay" (like behringer products)
are usefull for
connect 2 or 3 stereo loop-machines, receiving the "played "
signal
from a source.
What about ?
Thanks in advantage for your
suggestions.
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