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>>>>If using only Live as the looping device you have do it that way. I'm using it differently though, by looping both in Live and in the Augustus Looper plug-in, that is opened in one Live channel. I'm setting Live to slave to MIDI clock and when I start looping in the plug-in it sends out the correct tempo (just like an EDP) and Live starts to follow the tempo of my first recorded loop. This scenario was a bit flaky before, but now it seems to work fine with the latest versions of Live and Augustus.<<<< So Live has no unquantised option??? That seems insane. And depressing that their perception of music is that it has to be rhythmic. Surely a piece of software with the enourmous potential that Live has should be facilitating music making of all kinds, not just rhythmic stuff with click tracks and pre-recorded drums? How hard would it be to introduce an unquantised start/stop record function where the length of the first loop could be quantised to or not? Or maybe it's there and we haven't found it yet! Steve www.stevelawson.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 25/07/2005