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Thanks for helping with this Kim, >Perhaps one of you can open up your unit, look at the encoder, and >see what the manufacturer and part number is? 280S0041 9344 no manufacturer visible. the JamMan encoders are the same device with a similar number 280S0041 9408 >FWIW, in the vortex service manual this part is described as: >SW, RTY, BCD, 16POS, 17.5MM > >That probably means it is a rotary encoder using "BCD" style >encoding (Binary Coded Decimal), it has 16 positions, and the shaft >is 17.5mm long. That should be enough to find a similar part. I'd figured 4-bit grey code absolute encoder. So this is very useful info. BCD isn't an obvious choice (unless it's directly driving the numeric display) but as there are 6 pins coming out of the device it's got to be right. ( 1-16 takes 5 bits in BCD ) >It may be very simple to go buy them from an electronics distributor >if you know the mfr/part#, or find an alternate source just from the >part description if the original is not made any longer. Rotary >encoders are fairly common parts. Do a google search and you may find it. I tried, but none of the suppliers I could find who deal with the public seemed to have anything. >If we figure out where to get them, we can put the details on the >Looper's Delight web pages for vortex/jamman to help others. Yes, it would be great to find an answer to this one. Maybe Lexicon ordered a batch to their specification, and now they're all gone, so there isn't a standard component to buy . What would be the likely minimum order from a manufacturer? >kim andy butler www.andybutler.com >