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I'm thinking Taser might be more fun. No? --- Doug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote: > After they bump into you the first time, use a well > placed leg to send > them on their asses. Do it again if they come by > again. And again. > > Even the most stoned moron will figure it out. > > Dig > > PS - maybe this ethic comes from my punk rock roots, > where the pit was > the pit, but if you went too far astray, you got > what you deserved. > > > > Todd Howell wrote: > > >Mark > > > >I am beginning to get to the same place. I > understand the need to move and physically express > joy to music. A very necessary thing at some level. > On the other hand, being so cluster-f*ckingly self > absorbed as to dance into people and being > completely disrespectful of their personal space and > enjoyment of the concert is just plain unacceptable. > Most of these particular folk are on some manner of > chemically-based agenda in relation to the music. > I've no problem with that, being that I've enjoyed > certain moments of chemically induced musical > appreciation on many an occasion, though that is no > longer a possibility while trying to go to school > and pay a mortgage. The whole self-absorbed aspect > of that manner of behaviour seems off-putting. It > all boils down to basic respect for the artist and > your fellow audiwnce members. And unfortunately, > there is a complete drought of such behaviour. I am > to the point where I only go to see live music 7-10 > times a year any more. Too many headaches, including > parking, price, other concert-goers, onwards to > poor sound quality and crap venues. What about you? > I realize alot of this is a function of age and am > willing to be consider an old f*rt. > > > >Ideas? > > > >He who lurks......... > > > >Todd > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> > >Sent: Oct 10, 2005 2:40 PM > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: why do we play live? (mini Adrian > Belew review too!) > > > >I hear you Ted. Oh I hear you. Though, oddly > enough > >I've enjoyed your performances each time I've seen > >you. > > > >Here's another bit: > > > >Why do I go see live music? > > > >Friday I went to see Adrian Belew at Slim's in SF. > As > >always Adrian was great. He seems comfortable and > >downright gleeful on stage running through his set. > > >However, I left thinking I'd never go to another > show > >again. Why? A few reasons. > > > >One: TOO FUCKING LOUD. I'm sick of going to shows > >that are so loud you need ear protection. Your > choice > >is then to hurt yourself or hear a muddy muffled > >version. When shows can cost as much as $80 a > ticket > >(Hi Prince!) you'd think a well balanced audio set > up > >can be expected, but this is rarely the case in my > >experience. I've been at Adrian Belew and King > >Crimson shows that were so loud I needed ear > >protection. > > > >Two: Over zealous dancers. Friday night much of > the > >time was spent trying to get away from or ignore to > >smelly idiots who seem to think that dancing wildly > in > >a crowded club is OK. To them: I'm sorry your > father > >never paid attention to you and I know you feel > that > >no one loves you, but regardless, we didn't come to > >see you so please settle down and enjoy the show. > Do > >aerobics at your gym. > > > >Three: I'm 5'7" and my girlfriend is 5'. We had a > >hard time seeing a damn thing most of the night. > > > >So, I've kind of sworn myself off live music for > the > >time being. Each time I go I end up disappointed. > >Maybe this is why I generally avoid playing live as > >well. > > > >--- ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > >>Well, > >> > >>As some one who just played Y2K3 last night and > who > >>is currently > >>listening to the live stream of Billy "Gee-tar > Man" > >>Walker -- sweeping > >>the floor of all other pretenders -- I have to say > >>definatively . . . > >> > >>I dunno . . . > >> > >>It's a kind of "mountain" that I psych myself up > to > >>climb a half dozen > >>times (sometimes more, sometmes less) a year. I am > >>very seldom > >>ever satisfied with these "climbing" experiences. > I > >>too often go ill > >>prepared (or equipped) and wind up sliding halfway > >>down a glacier > >>on my sorry ass. Sometimes it happens even when I > am > >>perfectly > >>well prepared and outfitted too. > >> > >>The rare "satisfying" performances seem to come > >>entirely at > >>random and unexpectly. There seems to be no > >>"science" to it. All > >>of my disciplined preperations (if and when I > apply > >>myself) seem > >>to have little to no affect on the outcome > actually. > >>They seem > >>to amount to little more than a more elaborate > form > >>of "crossing > >>my fingers" and/or some sort of offeratory to the > >>gods of "guilt" > >>and "responsibility." And . . . I don't want t let > >>anyone down. > >> > >>I suppose I perform live because I keep hoping for > >>that next repeat > >>of the rare, blissful, play-my-ass-off, > >>my-fingers-can-do-no-wrong, > >>where-the-hell-is-this-music-coming-from (surely > not > >>me?) experience. > >>For only having had a taste of it a few times I am > >>still certainly addicted > >>nonetheless. I need it now as surely as a junky > >>needs a fix. > >> > >>But why? God, I wish I knew. Sometimes I think I'd > >>go into rehab and > >>"take the cure" to be rid of it for all the grief > >>it's caused me. Then, > >>at other times, I'd trade my left nut to taste of > >>that bliss again. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>tEd ® kiLLiAn > >> > >>PS. Buy "Flux Aeterna" from CDBaby during the > months > >>of September > >>and October and all of my portion of the profits > >>will be automatically > >>donated to the Red Cross by CDBaby specifically > for > >>Gulf Coast > >>hurricane relief. > >> > >>"Different is not always better, but better is > >>always different" > >> > >>http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > >>http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > >>http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > === message truncated === __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs