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On a related note of tone mangling devices, I remember lusting over an ADA delay unit when I was in highschool...it was an analog unit I believe, with various nobs that you could tweak in real-time. Has anyone ever seen one of these things around they were a single space. It sure is nice to be able to tweak a delay time nob without hearing the digital noise nightmare. I suppose Frisell is using something of this nature. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: <nick@12testing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>; "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: AW: sound mangling devices? > On 15 Oct 2005 at 19:17, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > > "at a reasonable price" is rather vague a specification. So is > > "maximum amount of sound mangling power". Could you be more specific? > > Sorry, it *was* rather general. Basically, I want to process the > loops as they errr loop, to give them more staying power and > perceived movement. For example, the airFX can warp a sound way from > it's origins, then slowly return back. To get a better idea, check > out sample 6 at > > http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/audio.htm > > A low-fi real audio excerpt from a recent gig at the Cambrdige > looping festival. The loop that "moves" is an old powertran echo (see > tech page) which I can pitch bend with the delay knob, going through > various airfx patches. My poor old jamman has nothing but a zoom > reverb to treat it. > > > Bitrman > > I've never seen this series in a shop, but reviews have been > uncomplimentary about the sound levels. Anyone use devices from this > series? > > >Zoom 1201, Lexicon Vortex... > > Too much LCD reading required - I'm looking for plenty of real tme > control > > >Nord Modular G2 engine with a Behringer BCR2000, > > Possibly a bit OTT for the purpose? > > Aber danke sehr.... > > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > > >