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I think part of what you're hearing isn't a slight toward you, but a lament of a group of people hungry for more choices in the looper world, but unhappy with what companies are coming out with. Price has little to do with it. The DL4 can be had at a similar price point and it's considered a great piece of gear. My main looper is a Repeater, but I love my $200 Boss Gigadelay. I think my first true looper cost me $75 used... an old Digitech RDS8000. Hell, if they just rereleased that with more memory they'd have a great product! This weekend I did most of my looping with $29 dollar software (Expert Sleepers' Augustus Loop) Worked like a charm. No one's diss'n the quality of the Digitech JamMan or the people who use it. They're questioning the logic of releasing a looper that lacks some very basic functionality that could make it great. I for one do not buy a looper that doesn't have some sort of feedback control no matter what the price. Mark __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/