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Ah, I don't get all the emails for some reason and I missed this. Good subject though. One thing that amazes me is the quality of tools available to musicians as opposed to what we had 20 years ago. Looper or otherwise. As a non pro, I pretty much by as close to "pro" as I can afford... weirdly I can afford pro gear now and couldn't when I was a "pro." Funny how that works. I still often think to my days back when I was an intern for Laurie Anderson during the making of "Home of the Brave." Digital Audio workstations (The Syncavier) set you back about $150K. You could probably put together a similar device from off the shelf software and computer hardware for about... well let's see! Macintosh G5: $2,000 MOTU 828mk2: $749 MOTU DP4: $349 Absynth $289 Kontakt $480 Novation Remote61 $499 Total: $4366 Now I'm not a/b comparing the Synclavier to the above system, I'm sure there are Synclavier fans who will flame me forever declaring their undying love for the classic machine... but the point is there's a HUGE difference in price. $4366 is within a lot of people's budgets, but $150,000 is just not. Then there's the "cheap stuff that's great" catagory like the short lived Alesis series that the Bitram is part of. Very cool stuff for not much cash at all. Basically, although we whine about lack of loopers, we're sitting pretty (at least here in the US where such things are plentiful) in the gear dept. I'm even amazed at how good cheap guitars and basses are these days. Good times.. Mark --- Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote: > It came from a discussion of tools and what was an > acceptable tool, > and what wasn't. The needs of a professional and an > amateur have a > lot in common, but not entirely, and in the ongoing > discussion of what > makes a good looping tool, the intended audience has > to be considered > and classified. __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs