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Sorry, I didn't mean to jump down your throat. Peter and I are in close contact as I'm in his shop every few weeks or on the phone with him every few days. He's not on the LD list, though he usually tries to post on the Yahoo list. Basically he's on a Non-disclosure agreement with Electrix so when he posted that he hadn't heard from them in a long time, that was true. Then he got through eventually and I can't tell you what they talked about or else I'd have to kill you. To me, the news is neither here nor there. It just means that our worst fears have not yet come to pass. :) Stephen <<Right, rumors aren't good. I posted a copy of a message that Peter sent to a yahoo group. It would be good if Peter himself would corroborate your news. Although he has made posts to the repeater group since Dec 6, he has not mentioned being in contact with Electrix.>> __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com