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That's right, Joe. I play this type of promotion like a numbers game. I don't have a lot of emotional attachment to these services or communiation methos, except that Mixposure.com is pretty damn cool and a good way to get reviews quickly. So I simply find them on the web, submit my content as fast as possible, and get out. I keep a running list of them so that I can go back and update my info once in a while. I did that for a month straight until my Google search results increased 10 fold. I have made a lot of contacts and generated a lot of interest in my music this way. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe rut" <joerut@lycos.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: WAYS TO SELL OUR SELVES: ONLINE Kris- Thanks for the list of potential places to post stuff re: CD releass, etc.. I'm usually pretty pessimistic about geting my stuff out there, and have to keep reminding myself that "failures" are simply part of the overall strategy leading to successes. If you send your info to 10 places and 9 of them have no effect, but 1 of them does, that is a success! Cheers Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WAYS TO SELL OUR SELVES: ONLINE Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:03:57 -0700 > > I'm resending this to see if I can get the "Re:" removed....to > maintain the thread title. > > CD RELEASE COMMUNICATIONS > > The following is my strategy, and I'm sure there is more to add to it. >You > could spend the rest of your life communicating your CD releases! > > A. Write a concise, professional looking, and informative memo for your >CD > release. If you are not a good writer, get someone else to write it for > you. > > B. Write it in electronic format and store it on your computer so that >you > can copy and paste the text into various forums...it save a lot of time > and > establishes consistency > > C. Some forums allow images, in which case I would take advantage of this > and post a small graphic of the CD cover with your memo. > > D. Post it on as many relevant online information sharing forums that you > can find. > > E. Here are the forums that I post to for my CD releases. I would be > interesting in learning of others! > > 1. Google Groups / USENET (also accessible via Google Groups > > Alt.Music.Makers.Electronic (USENET) - > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.makers.electronic?lnk=oa&hl=en > Experimental Electronic Music Makers (Google) - > http://groups.google.com/group/eemm?lnk=oa&hl=en > Free Improvisation Music (Google) - > http://groups.google.com/group/Free-Improvisation?lnk=oa&hl=en > Rec.Music.Ambient (USENET) - > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.ambient?lnk=oa&hl=en > Rec.Music. Experimental (USENET) - > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.experimental?lnk=oa&hl=en > Alt.Music.Progressive (USENET) - > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.progressive?lnk=oa&hl=en > > 2. Yahoo Groups > > Northwest Experimental - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nwexperimental/ > Groove Unlimited - http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Groove_Unlimited/ > Space Music - > http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=Electronic+Music&sc=-1&sg=30&ss=1 > Experimusic - http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/experimusic/ > Odd Music - http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/oddmusic/ > LoopMusic - http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/loopmusic > > Search for other groups here: http://groups.yahoo.com/ > > 3. Other Music Related Discussion Forums > > Kronosonic - http://kronoson.station185.com/kronosonic/forum/ > UncleDig - http://kronoson.station185.com/kronosonic/forum/ > MP3.com - http://www.mp3.com/forums/forums.html > Artist Launch - http://www.indieprops.com/bforum/ > Mixposure - http://www.mixposure.com/forum/ > > ...and many more, if you use Google to find them. > > E. Examples > > 1. > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.experimental/browse_frm/thread/b4691a0ced843448/ 81e01aedb7e34b6a#81e01aedb7e34b6a 2. http://www.uncledig.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,27/func,view/ id,223/catid,2/ 3. http://www.mp3.com/promote-your-music/new-years-day-cd-release-xperimentus-international-collaboration/ topic/18-12420/msgs.html 4. http://www.mixposure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13125 ...and many more, if you use Google to find them. Kris ----- Original Message -----> From: "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com>> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers- Delight@loopers-delight.com>> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:42 PM> Subject: WAYS TO SELL OUR SELVES: ONLINE>>>> I'd like to propose a series of threads to collate all of the creativeideas about>> how we can sell ourselves, both through online sales, online promotion,creating gigs, creating new venues, et. al.>> so that we can all use it as a resource in the future.>>>> The thread, CD SALES DECLINING has > had > some really excellentcontributions about this phenomenon>> and > noone disputing the observation of the trend. The next > obviousquestion is: Given that, how can we>> maximize our sales > (if we are attempting like many of us are, to becommercially viable > artists) and what creative>> things can we do to create a new > paradigm for surviving as a fine artistin this economic > climate.>>>> WAYS TO SELL OURSELVES: ONLINE>>>>>> I'd propose > that we NOT discuss philosophy in this thread, but rather,merely > list resources for the purpose of quick reference in the future>> > for looping artists. For the future of quick reference, please > createa subthread if you'd like to discuss philosophy (I know, as > an example, thata>> lot of people don't even believe in selling art > at all)>>>> Kris and others have mentioned CD Baby, Itunes, > Amazon, et. al.>>>> Specifically, in each instance,>> 1) how does > one contact these organizations?>> 2) How do they work?>> 3) Maybe > a little critique, posit > ive or negative about people'sindividual experience with the > various vendors.>> 4) Any other pertinent information one might > think of.>>>>>>> -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10