Re: crappy music of the masses

[Todd Howell <ransacker@earthlink.net>]

Folks

K.Hartung is right. It is all just art. Perhaps not interesting, edifying 
or even worth wasting breath on. But it is all art. I have the feeling 
that this has always been the case. There has been high art, low art, pop 
art, genius and just plain sh*t in every era of human existence. There 
were great cave painters and bad cave painters, etc.. I think the key is 
finding what moves you and allowing yourself to fully experience it. I 
admit those moments come along for me less often these days, but they do 
happen. Perhaps I am just not as open to new ideas as I was 20 years ago. 
Who knows? As for anger, there is a fine line between expressing 
it/turning it into exploitive product/holding up a mirror to the world. If 
anyone can figure out those particular boundaries, I'd be intrigued to 
hear their ideas.



Todd

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>
>Sent: Jan 11, 2006 12:38 PM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: crappy music of the masses
>
>Sorry folks. It all seems like art and just another form of expression to 
>me. It's all permitted.  It's just not reaching out to greet you at the 
>door.  Of course, I'm repulsed by most of it as well, as some art should 
>do 
>to us ina healthy system of artist expression. If it doesn't than what a 
>sorry ass, monochromatic, undiverisifed, and basically soporific boring 
>world we would live in. Now that would make me angry. Getting angry at 
>people getting angry and expressing it via music seems like a tremdous 
>waste 
>of artistic energy.
>
>Just my 2 cents, man....
>
>K-
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Todd Pafford" <calenlas@gmail.com>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:21 AM
>Subject: Re: crappy music of the masses
>
>
>Agreed, d.s..
>
>The anger, hatred, and violence in gangsta & metal genres astounds me.
> What a waste of a day to spend it pissed off at the world.  And of
>course there's the rampant consumerism in the pop & hip-hop genres.
>Bleh.
>
>The saddest thing to me is that most hip young people don't read.  (Of
>course, it was the same in my day too.)  So here we have a situation
>where folks spend all day pissed off, thinking about the latest
>fashions and bling to spend their dough on, and not learning anything
>from several thousand years of human existence and not critically
>thinking about how they're living.  It's a sad and pitiable waste of
>life.
>
>T.
>
>On 1/11/06, daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>      who keeps pushing this crappy music to the ignorant masses?im sick 
>of
>> it to the point of violence! the cocaine pushing rap music...the 
>mindless
>> rabble of big guitar rock...all the pedofilic pop music aimed at
>> kids...where is the art? its no puzzel...kill em all and feed em to the 
>> fat
>> greedy humans in buffet lines!
>>      angry about it,
>>                            scary!
>>
>>
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