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I second that sentiment. Bill -----Original Message----- From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 3:59 AM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: LONG LIVE the EDP and the LOOPERLATIVE was: edp R.I.P ...long live the looperlative I wanted to chime in on this thread if it's alright with everyone: I had the distinct pleasure of helping Steve to debut the Looperlative at NAMM and can say that I'm very excited about the prospects and the future growth of this amazing instrument. I've only had one in working order for less than two weeks and it is really an amazing and groundbreaking looper. Many thanks to Bob Amstadt for creating it and having the open minded and serving attitude that he has about it's just beginning group of loyal users. Thanks also to Steve for a wonderful video introduction to the unit. I learned a few things from his presentation. That being said and done, I think it does great disservice to this community to have a thread titled edp R.I.P.............long live the looperlative. I have to go on record and say that I love the EDP! It is an astonishing and completely unique digital instrument: one that is so complex that I"m still learning how to use it. It has created a lot of unprecedented musical innovation in this community and in the world at large. I can't imagine the very, very beautiful and sophisticate musics of Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler and Matthias Grob (to name just a few) without this instrument. And just like the Stratocaster, the Les Paul and some state of the art Digital Modelling Guitar..................or like the MAC, the PC or the hardware based solutions for live looping: It's hard to compare apples and oranges. The EDP is an amazing and very, very deep instrument..........................it doesn't do what the Looperlative can do but by the same token, the Looperlative will probably never have the same feature sets that the EDP has or the Repeater has..........................they are different instruments. I've had many, many offlist letters from loopers saying 'Should I dump my EDP and buy a Looperlative" and I have answered everyone with the same answer: "Save up and buy a Looperlative, you'll be glad you did, but hang on to your EDP................. it does uniquely what no other looper has done and it will always have musical value as such. I am a proud user and endorser of the Looperlative (and just learning it). I've been a proud endorser and user of the EDP (and still learning it) and , for all of it's flaws, I am a proud user of the Electrix Repeater and the Line 6 DL-4, stomp box looper. One instrument doesn't have to die for another to live. One style of music doesn't have languish in order for another to thrive. Long Live the EDP (and thank you Matthias, Kim Flint, Andy Butler, Claude Voit and all of the amazing people who produced it). Long Live the Looperlative (and thank you Bob Amstadt, Steve Lawson and all the people who will help develop it) Long Live the Repeater (and all who have developed it) Long Live all the incredible live looping hardware and software solutions that have made our community so strong and creatively vital. The more instruments we have.........the more diversity they represent............the stronger our community will be. yours, Rick Walker