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I agree with Mark, and like to add that, something about trusting my live performance to a Windows based laptop or even the vaunted Mac ,with the better but not there yet latency issues, fills me with dread. First there is the crash problem, I've seen it happen to people live, not a pretty sight, then there is the cost as Mark mentioned, not to mention the learning curve, way steeper than the Looperlative, and not nearly as user friendly for midi foot control. I'd say $1400 is pretty dammed reasonable. I have rarely ever had problems with my line 6 DL4 or Repeater, my main live tools, the exception being the occasional footswitch gone bad (DL4) or RPTR freeze (always cured by powering down, which takes about 1/10th of the time it takes to reboot most computers), or the occasional power brown out. I usually bring two loopers to a gig, three if you count the hold delay in the vox tonelab, and sometimes another DL4. If any one of those loopers went down I'd still have one or two as backup, I might have to change how I approach the set but I wouldn't be sitting there sweating bullets staring in to a computer screen. I know the day is not far off when all the little bugs and issues about live looping on computer are solved, and I certainly won't dispute how much more vast the options become in the computer domain, I'm just not ready to invest in what I feel it would take to have a performance worthy rig (2 mac powere books running duplicate apps), I could easily buy two looperalatives and maybe and edp for those kind of sheckles. Bill -----Original Message----- From: mark sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative Too Expensive? As someone who's made a conserted effort to replace external gear with software I have to say that in my findings a good enough laptop and audio interface hardware to run a decent looper will easily cost you $1400 (USB isn't fast enough, you'll need USB2 or Firewire and you'll need a gig of memory and a 7200 rpm hard drive too) and guess what? It won't hold a candle to what an EDP or Repeater can do... probably not be able to keep up with a Boss RC-50. Kim's gone on about why this isn't possible (Windows isn't a "real time" OS and I believe the Mac OS is better but still not that great) So while my trusty computer does a great job being my drum machine, effects processor and synth (though not all at the same time) I've never found the feature/feel combo in looping software, although Augustusloop is mighty fun in a pinch. It's not going to replace my hardware any time soon, just as my soft synths aren't going to replace my Virus. They just don't pack the same power. Mark --- Todd Pafford <calenlas@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, I was really excited about the Looperlative > too until I saw the > price. There are a lot of things I'd rather spend > that sort of money > on. And you're right, Kevin, a laptop definitely > falls in that > category. > > Best of luck to Bob & the Looperlative, but I've got > to count myself > out of this one. > Todd > > > On 1/26/06, Kevin <kevin@thenettles.com> wrote: > > Sorry, a newbie's mistake, I should have looked in > the archives first > > before asking about the Looperlative LP1. > > > > I seriously wonder about the price point on the > LP1. $1400 direct > > from Looperlative. At that price a laptop with a > 1/4" to USB cable > > and a software looper starts looking pretty good. > The LP1 won't do > > amp simulations and it won't help me answer email > either. ;-) > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > www.TheNettles.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com