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I get the digest so here's several replies to different posts. I may be a newbie here but I know enough to trim the end of my posts of old posts. ;-) Before I say anything more though, I'd like to say that I totally respect Bob's business model. I hope it works for him and I think that the Looperlative is a totally cool product. My day job and nonmusical interests give me a lot of insight into this market though. Bob, if you're out there and you'd like to discuss some possibilities offline, send me an email. If not, that's fine, I've got enough projects now. Blah, blah, blah. On to the replies to the posts: >From: Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@suitandtieguy.com> >On Jan 26, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Ronan Chris Murphy wrote: >>$1400 is ... way less than a lot of Eventide boxes > >about 1/3 the cost of the new H7600. with the Eventide you have to >set up your own looping patch if you have some real specific shit to >do, though i'm sure Italo's looping presets are great (probably even >what Bob Fripp is using right now). with the Looperlative you have >to set up your own interface, whereas in the Eventide you can have a >few controls you prefer immediately on the front. I found the following about Fripp's "Soundscaping" rig at: http://www.elephant-talk.com/gigs/frip9712.htm "...Fripp then got his guitar and played for an hour and a half or so. The music was pretty dark and spooky - a lot of piano and bell sounds along with the standard soundscape-tone. I got a good look at his gear. His pedals from (his) left to right: Roland GR-30 Guitar synth, Roland GR-1 Guitar synth, a couple of volume pedals, Digitec Whammy II, Rocktron controller, three more volume pedals, foot controllers for rack units. Rack (top to bottom): Pair of Eventide Ultra Harmonizers, TC Electronics processor, two Roland GP 100s, four (yes four!) TC electronics 64 second delays, some processor in between the delays, amplifier. After a while, Fripp stopped the loop (it had been one constant loop, although parts were deleted and added along the way)..." No Eventide H7600 that I can see, although Fripp may changed his rig since the post. >From: Per Boysen <per@boysen.se> >I see this mistake being done all over - comparing >prices of the cheapo laptops that use to figure in advertisements. >That's not fair IMHO. My point is that the smart shopper doesn't buy new. He buys used. Or uses something from his day job. Last year's tech gets big, big discounts. And laptop prices at any given performance point are dropping rapidly. You have to look further down the road than just today. Your competitors are. >From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> >the advantage to a heavily-software item like the looperlative is that >Behringer would have to copy the software. That would be hard to do >without making it provably a copyright violation (rather than just a >clone...) Unless Behringer's software--beyond the basics--is written by users in the open-source community. You just wouldn't believe how much hacking of consumer products goes on now. That's why the new Lego Mindstorms license has a "right to hack". It's only a matter of time before the same thing starts happening in the musical community, given the number of engineers who also play music. The standard sound-editing package for radio folks is Audacity, which is completely open-source. Max/MSP is a visual programming environment previously used by installation artists that is now being used more and more by digital musicians and has been used to create a cheap open-source Final Scratch. The new product paradigm folks are aiming at is Web 2.0. Peace, Kevin www.TheNettles.com