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Sorry, didn't mean to shake anybody's tree. I just follow tech. I'm not bashing Looperlative either. Replies below. >From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> >Very good point Per. When was the last time you >bought a laptop or software and had the developer >respond personally to a question posted to a list? >NEVER. That is surely worth something. For me? All the time, actually. From the megas hardly ever but from small shops for special-purpose stuff? Yup, yup and yup. Software is service. Maybe the music software/hardware companies haven't caught up with that yet. That will change. >From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> >In order for Behringer to ship, they'd have to ship a box that did >something useful. They can't ship a box that does nothing and wait >for people to write software! Just writing the "basics" of a decent >looper that people would pay several hundred dollars for is, as we >know, a difficult activity. True. But looping software's been done. And done. It only has to be as useful as, say, a Boss, an LD or an Akai Headrush. As long as it can be added to. >And this has taken them years to achieve and is not based around a >proprietary bit of hardware. Okay, so off-the-shelf components, then. The DSP and memory chips are the heart of most of the digital equipment we see and a lot of it is the same chips over and over. Maybe it's not the hardware, it's the package. And maybe the hardware is open, too. The boutique world for specialty markets is a fine way to make a living. > > Max/MSP is a visual programming environment > > previously used by installation artists that is now being used more > > and more by digital musicians and has been used to create a cheap > > open-source Final Scratch. > >Again, this took years and years to do and isn't based around a >proprietary system. Oh there are a number of propietary bits of hardware out there that Max/MSP uses. And Max/MSP could be used to add features to a looper. It may have taken years but it's already here. Nobody starts from scratch. > > The new product paradigm folks are aiming > > at is Web 2.0. > >Wait, how did we jump to web applications? None of these programs >have anything to do with the web?! Sorry, I should have explained myself. See: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html for the manifesto. Under all the geek-speak it's about communities being both markets and content developers. The web's part in this has to do with enabling tools and the social networks. Besides the LP1 has an ethernet cable, remember? ;-) I don't want to waste anybody's time on this and I definitely don't want to make folks feel like they need to circle the wagons. The Looperlative LP1 looks like a great product and I hope that all of Bob's plans work out. The discussion on this list just made me think a bit about the paths not taken and what the looping world is going to look like in 5-10 years. If you're interested in discussing this further, especially if you're a geek like me, contact me offline at: Kevin@TheNettles.com Peace, Kevin www.TheNettles.com