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mark sottilaro wrote: > Very good point Per. When was the last time you > bought a laptop or software and had the developer > respond personally to a question posted to a list? > NEVER. That is surely worth something. I think its every day since about 15 Years at least for the software I use. All of the developers of Max/MSP post to their lists, I doubt you'll find one day where there is no personal response of at least one of the developers to one of the questions. The max list is as active as Loopers-Delight, as actually most lists which deal with creative software solutions: Pd, CSound, Supercollider come to mind. But these tools don't give you a looper out of the box, you would have to (and want to) do it yourself, which is the most exciting thing in the world. No begging for features, you miss it?, you just implement it... Its definitely worth to get into one of these tools... Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x--- --_____-----------|---------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()--- -- _|_)----|-----()---------- ----------()------------x---- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-49 77 51 72