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With rare exception, hip hop vocal rhythms are all subdivisions of standard 4/4 phrasing, and while very musically pleasing (to some, myself included) I would not put them in the same category of rhythmic complexity as balkan music where the bars constantly change beat length (4/4, 3/ 4, 7/8, 5/8, 2/4, 12/8etc.). I would not consider improvising over a solid 4/4 beat, where the "one" is rarely in question to be particularly sophisticated (opinion alert). Cheers Joe >Like or loathe it, hiphop's vocal > rhythms are often very sophisticated and its popularity is very > high throughout the youth culture. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10