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Hi: I don't know if anyone in a prior thread mentioned it but the Roland SPD-S is a pretty nifty device. The internal sounds aren't half bad and one can sample one's own (or from an included CD with Roland sounds on it). The form factor is a 6 pad plus 3 rim-kinda-shot pads. The stuff loaded into the device give a pretty good idea of what it can do. It has a lot of features and an accompanying manual that (as usual with Roland) could be better but does cover the extensive features of this beast. There's a rudimentary kind of looping available with the unit as well. Try demo-ing the thing in a store. You can see how the thing would be a good fit to a looping environment. I must have always wanted to be a drummer as I'm thinking of getting a whole rig next (electronic lower end Roland). I paid around $499 for the SPD-S, BTW. Regards, Paul ---- "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > I have been a bit shocked at the dirth of replies, but I have a solution > that could be a wonderful one for you and not all that expensive for how > powerful it would be. > > > 1) Buy yourself a new ($150) > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Drums/Percussion/Electronic/Drum/Machines?sku=705531 > > or used ($30 - $75 or a buy it now model in excellent condition for >$100) > >http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=alesis+sr+16&category0= > > ALESIS SR-16 DRUM MACHINE > This drum machine is a really good midi controller with touch sensitive > pads. > > * note, these have been out since 1989 unbelievably and there are a >million > of them out there, many of them are thrashed with overuse. > I'd recommend getting the Buy It Now model or the brand new Model (with >a > warranty) > > It's sounds, unfortunately suck donkeys (pardon my Amaraic) > > > > Soooooo, couple it with the purchase of: > > 2) a used ($170 or $245 buy it now price) (though none on Ebay > currently used) > http://www.prepal.com/data/Alesis.htm > ALESIS DR 4 oone rack space DRUM MODULE with hundreds of sounds > > 3) or a used ($245 by it now) > >http://instruments.search.ebay.com/ALESIS-DM-5_Musical-Instruments_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8QQsacatZ619 > > or a brand new ($349 with a set of five external triggers thrown in for > free -VERY NICE for progamming your drum machine externally) > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Drums/Percussion/Electronic/Drum/Machines?sku=705523 > > ALESIS DR 5 (18 bit drum module-----------the sounds are great in this > box........everything from real to processed to electronic drum machine > to electronic drums to synthesizer drums to percussion) > > 4) Control both with an inexpensive ONE IN/TWO OUT MIDI THRU box >($28.79 > new) > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Recording/Computer/Hardware?sku=702507X > > > If you want to get really hi tech about it, you could purchase a >TRIGGER > FINGER (midi finger styled controller for $199) > to control the DM 4 or DM 5 and you'd have control over volume, >panning, > cutoff frequency, resonance, etc. of the sounds). > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Keyboards/Midi/MIDI/Controllers?sku=703614 > > You could also go with just the Trigger Finger instead of the SR 16 but > you'd lose the sequencing abilities. > > > That would be a great solution for everything you'd want to do and you >could > easily get in under $500 for the whole kit and kaboodle. > > Good luck. > > Rick Walker > >