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thanks andreas! this is what i'm curious about with everyone here. i do get stuck in the loop quite a bit lol; must do what faulkner says and 'kill those darlings' indeed. on the other hand people often say my music has a hypnotic, trance-like quality (probably due to the repetitions hehe)... thanks for sharing the track - good stuff! --- Andreas Wetterberg <awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk> wrote: > r i c k m o n d wrote: > > > so what/how does looping function for you? > > I recently got into the whole > cutting/dividing/replace thing, so getting > stuck in the loop has been changed into a one-shot, > thank g*d. My looper > does adjustable fades when going into replace, so I > can do evolving > stuff a bit more intuitively than turning down the > feedback - also, on > longer lines replacing a smaller fragment of the > soundscape doesn't mess > with the overall structure of the piece, making it a > lot less daunting - > it basically turns replace into a smooth, dynamic > "reduce feedback, then > overdub, then increase feedback after going out of > overdub"-function, > which I really like. (As an aside, do you call it > Insert or Replace? I'm > not quite hip to the lingo these days :-s ) > > But the best part still has to be: > A: Degrading the loop and chopping into it with > effects in the feedback > chain - highpass filtering is especially good for me > - and reversing > stuff in there as well. > B: Changing the loop length in my looper causes > divides, not > pitch-changes, so I can do a quick 1/16th note > stutter burst, jump back > out to 1 bar, and the stutters are locked in the > loop - all this is > probably old news to hardcore EDP-users, but it's > pretty new ground for > me, so I am very happy with it! > > All in all these methods provide some good tools for > deconstruction and > recontextualization of a soundscape, which are so > fun that getting stuck > isn't happening all that often - the only times it > does is when I get > into a really good loop, with succesfull effect > chops, good harmonies, > really good timing etc in a neat little package. At > that point I *need* > to sample the loop before moving on, I'm not > hardened enough to kill my > darlings yet. > > I've uploaded a quick mp3 highlighting some of the > deconstruction > methods I use - the track is an all-live recording, > just voice and drum > samples being triggered in real-time. I reckon it > gets interesting at 1 > minutes 30 seconds into the song where I start > breaking down the loop > quite a bit, by going from a 1bar loop to 8bars and > chopping away :) > > http://thecovertoperators.groc.org/operator_a/Machinate_-_Glimmer.mp3 > (NOTE: mp3-file may or may not contain horrible > singing and sloppy > hiphop-beats - please disregard! hehe) > > Andreas > > "Artists in any medium are nothing more than mere hooligans who cannot live within their income of admiration." - Quentin Crisp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com