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>Don't overdub at first... just close the first pass with loopcopy and >you're >into loop 2 multiplying as well as overdubbing your input. It just takes >one >phrase in loop 1, then get the hell over to loop 2! You always have a >'breakdown' by returning to loop 1. It's even the same number of button >pushes. Instead of going into overdub, you end with nextloop, and are >overdubbing AND multiplying. It's actually a bonus to do it that way. Cool, how about sharing the necessary params to make this work? andybutler www.andybutler.com mp3 & info