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Bought a Sustainiac Stealth Plus retrofit kit from Maniuac Music at www.sustainiac.com a few years ago and installed it on an old super-strat type guitar I had lying about. Installation was not as easy as they made out. The mechanical fit was very tight. But the performance is excellent - strong sustain. Lots of control over the strength and harmonics. Can sound very much like natural amp feedback if you want it to. And it makes a passable high-output neck pickup as well. I now have it installed in a Roland G707. Only trouble is, PP3 batteries do not last very long. It's not like having an Ebow on each string. I have an Ebow and the techniques one uses are quite different. I look forward to looping with both when my EDP+ arrives. Nik ----- Original Message ----- From: "jj 179" <jj179subs@hotmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Sustainiac (Was: Looper's Essential Listening revisited:) > Not sure if anybody else had this experience, but a coupla years ago I > went out and bought a Fernandes Sustainer. I had been using an e-bow for > years and had heard wonderful stories about the Sustainer. > > It was an extreme disappointment. The guitar itself was incredibly >cheaply > built. The Sustain didn't work very effectively at all - certainly **not > at all** like an e-bow. I could only get the faintest of feedback and it > sounded lousy. > > I'm sticking to my e-bow. > > just my 2 cents.