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loop album: revisited-fripp Let the power fall / percussive gtr / Zoom G2 as looper



yesterday listened to Fripps "let the power fall", was in a fripp mode a few yrs ago, bought it, didn't love it as much as 'no pussyfootin' that i have in the fripp/eno compilation disc (combines a bunch of their projects)....when i first listened to it awhile back, it seemed too sparse, but in listening again yesterday, i found i liked it, most pieces do start off slow and build to a nice intensity...there seems to be a nice warmth to the sounds repeating etc....i'm not sure when this was originally released (didn't read the liner notes too close)...but i thought it said this was document of frippertonics on tour.....
 
percussive gtr-a late post, some great ideas from others, i would recommend listening to andre's 'normalized' cd, to my ear there is lots of slapping, banging, hitting, scraping going on that he loops and makes into "drum" sounds....also adrian belews 1st solo album had the track "hot gtr" (is that the right title?) that was very percussive of him hitting gtr that had contact mics on it (i have that album on tape!), there is also the laurie anderson 'home of the brave' performance video (mycopy long lost) of adrian playing w/ her, and he's hitting strings w/ forks and drum mallets (sort of doing the cage prepared thing)...also the dvd of henry kaiser (25 solos on 25 gtrs) has him demoing his approach to the percussive sounds that he got from derek bailey style playing. lots of muting strings differently etc...and of course derek bailey himself, i have his short nyc concert in small record shop, where he does his thing, very percussive, very free in playing, but very interesting, very much expanding the language and vocabulary of guitar w/ just an acoustic guitar....also, the DT painting w/ gtr vids have him doing a little percussive stuff at the end of one of the tapes....
i find that in making percussive sounds you have to move away from the 'standard ideas of gtr playing', you know, when i started i wanted to be fast and explosive like the hotshot 80s guys, so move in 180 degrees from that thinking and start exploring, scraping, banging, muting, rubbing, like the others have mentioned...i also use my ibanez de7 delay to do fast-slow or slow-fast manipulations to enhance percussive stuff.....
 
Zoom G2-as cheap looper-i wouldn't know about setting output into computer and use (can't figure out my cheapo computer recording software), the g2 does have 5 sec of delay at 100% feedback, and has 3 options of using: there is 3 sec in the 2nd effects module, and actual delay module (5 sec-options of digital, tape sim. or ping pong), and in the reverb section there is the tap delays (8 types) up to 3 sec. you can get some wild out of control things going....and it does have up to 5 secs of delay. the problem is that  you can't manipulate the delay (i like to do the fast to slow or slow to fast manipulations), once you try to change time, it clicks and stops and will reset to new time that you set. frustrating a bit. i have used it to set up delay drone backgrounds and then dump that to my sampler and then can play over it, but w/ out that or some type of A/B box/pedal, you can't play over preplayed stuff, it becomes part of the delay...the expression pedal  (i have the plain g2) option allows you to manipulate the feedback, which i found to be not too exciting, essentiall turning it on and off....but it will allow you 5 sec of delay time, just remember that its not meant as a loop device, its delay is just one of the options among an inexpensive multi-effect.
but the ring mod, and the dynamic flanger are good for percussive sounds!!!
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