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At 11:33 PM +0100 2/28/06, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >I'd like to summarize the advantages/disadvantages of both in a few lines >- >but I'm sure that there are others that can tell you a lot more >(especially >about the DD20 - got mine last Saturday). > >[snip...] I think that Rainer does an excellent job of summarizing both units. There's one extra feature I'd like to add for the DD-20, though. If you also get one of the optional Roland FS footswitches (the FS-5U -- the unlatched version) you can use it to get a reasonably close approximation to some of the EDP "glitch" functionalities (ala LaFosse, etc). This is the only floor unit I can think of off the top of my head that can do that. Other than that, I'll simply go on to agree with the other posters here. I like the DD-20 (it's great for exceptionally clean loops, as well as textures and polyrhythms). However, the DL-4 is a lot more accessible, IMNSHO, and is easier with which to get instant gratification. That last point may be especially important, depending upon the technical skill level of the gift recipient. I think the "neat" factor is a lot more apparent on the DL-4. While I finally consider the DD-20 just as "neat", it's a more subtle box and you've got to take more time to explore its options. --m. -- _______ "Wind in my heart. Dust in my head..."