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Kris asked: "Speaking of which, does anyone find it easier to freely improvise when you aren't using layers and layers of effects, tone mangling devices, etc?" "Less is More" "Space is the Place" - Sun Ra Absolutely , Kris.................................I always have this paradigm in my mind when I go onstage. Take a Papua New Guinea master musician who has played all of his or her life. Have them discover an Analogue Synthesizer hooked up to an amplifier and turned on in the middle of the forest. what kind of music would that amazing and deep musician make on something that they don't understand or have never even encountered. ***************************************************************** At the same time, I view effects devices as instruments themseslves. If you are presented with a Wok Wisk that is playing through a cheesy Alesis MidiVerb2 infinite reverb (one of my favorite sounds in the world and one that cannot be duplicated with even the most expensive Eventide DSP box) it is a certain sound and it dictates how you can use it. The Wok Wisk by itself completely changes it's timbral context..............................putting anything else through that cheesy DSP process and the same thing doesn't happen. "Timbre is God" ------------- Frank Zappa