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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > ok, here's another kind of position in this debate: > > The instrument I play is "effects". I sometimes hide these effects behind > playing on something non-effect, like a guitar or keyboard. In a current project I'm working on, that's exactly what I'm doing: I'm working with a tuba player, whose mic'd tuba feeds into my effects chain of lots of pedals and 3-5 looper pedals. I'm live looping, effecting, passing the loop to another of the loopers, layering, and playing his variably-processed loops back at him, while he's welcome to play more live over my looping back at him. I'm not using at present, any sound-making devices myself, I'm playing with his sounds as they sound like something I can work with. It's fun. best, Steve B http://www.subscapeannex.com/about_steve.html