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Kevin, I've owned the FM-4, and though I would never have described it as "glitchy", it didn't sound convincing to me. More like it was trying to emulate 16 different "real filters" and doing a barely passable job at all of them. I'm sure that other users find it more than adequate, that was just my impression. By itself it was okay, kinda fun for a few hours... But then put it in a signal chain with other stomp boxes and suddenly it doesn't sound so good anymore. Same goes for their other coloured boxes. The MM-4 was my favorite out of that bunch, but it just didn't hold up in a more complex signal path. I sold it and got a TC Stereo Chorus Flanger instead. Now there's a sexy beast... The Filter Factory on the other hand, sounds as clear and as deep as a snow-fed mountain stream. The only problem I have with it is that the distortion segment is a bit lame. But that's neither here nor there. You also may want to look into the Filter Queen, almost the same exact unit while taking up half the space. I've owned both and have kept the Filter Factory. I also owned an Evolver for 6 months or so. One of the worst possible user interfaces ever to exist on a piece of gear. While the PolyEvolver keyboard goes a long way towards rectifying the Evolver's UI, it still doesn't show what it got under it's skirt. This is something that I'd want to see at a glance, like say, a Nord Lead or a Korg Oasys with their LED illuminated rotary knobs. Electrix gear shows everything, you can tell what sound it's going to make even before turning it on. The only exception to this is that the Repeater is lacking a few small things like track mute indicators. Stephen <<The FM-4 looks to be a little glitchy, judging from the user manual and the comments on the list. Does anyone have experience with the Electrix Filter Factory? That may be the filter for me.>> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com