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Mic, How do I use my Filter Factory? Like you I run aux sends or sub outs from my Mackie (used to be a 1604 or 3204, now a 24-8) first into the Mo-FX then into the FF, and back into two channel strips on the Mackie, (if I were you, I'd not send the Mo/FF to the rang, but send another clean sub or aux to the 'Rang). I do the same with stereo sends and returns for both the Repeater and the Vocoder separately. Are you having problems with sound quality? Or just concerned about the amount of real estate it is taking up? One thing to be sure to check is that you have the Mo-FX set to "Auto" not "Thru" or else you will have a latency loop. I use the delay mix set to "100", then the Filter Factory I set to somewhere around 50/50 wet/dry. I hardly ever use the Flanger (way too harsh sounding to my ear) or the tremolo (not much need for it) and only sometimes the distortion (about 5% of the time). I've got a photo of my setup here: http://tinyurl.com/kktbk Stephen >> stephen.....i have a ff also but i have been disapointed in it.....how >do you use your's?.....i may be using mine "incorrectly"......it was in the aux send of my mackie 1202 going to my mo-fx (all i use on this is the delay/looper) into the ff then out to my rang.....i've taken it out of my signal chain altogether as of late.....i'm looking at it now and it looks kool with its brothers and sisters mofx-warpfactory-filterfactory but all i use as i have said is the delay on the mo-fx.....its like a "retro" stage prop with all the knobs and lites, can't have enuf of those!.....mic << __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com