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Yes, that's true, as Rainer indicated...BUT, you can turn that metronome off. I completely emphasize with folks wanting to play according to a tempo...it's just not my cup of tea to be driven by a non-dynamic meter. It's only a car crash if both people are trying play in metered grooves. I just learn to listen. If I'm doing something with a time signature and meter (my own, not one generated by a machine or piece of software), then it's common sense that the other person doesn't starting doing the same....unless polyrhythms is the objective and it feels right. We trade off, etc. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Hm, I thought your tempo was kind of "locked" due to > the nature of Ninjam. It works because the latency is > extended to a logical quantize point: a measure. For > it to work you'd have to define the exact length of > that measure and therefore the bmp, no? So why not be > synced? Being free is nice if the people with you can > react in real time. If you're listening to me a > measure ago and I'm changing my tempo it's going to be > a car crash. Of course, the musical version of a car > crash might be fun. > > --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > >> For me, the most beneficial feature of Nijmam is >> that many people can steam >> through the same server. That's a beautful thing. >> Sure, you can sync, but >> it's not in real time. You still have the time delay >> (it's just packaged up >> in a synced way), so the performance is not two or >> more people playing >> together in real-time in the strict sense of the >> term, like what is the case >> when playing in person. So, if you are fine with >> playing over someone's part >> that has been played 15-30 seconds beforehand (or >> whatever it happens to >> be), that's cool. I guess if you are syncing local >> software, that is a >> different matter, but I personally dislike that sort >> of collaboration...I >> don't like a machine correcting or defning my meter >> for me. It's annoying >> and unnatural for me. I like to keep things >> freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andreas Wetterberg" >> <awetterberg@post.cybercity.dk> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:02 AM >> Subject: Re: about ninjam >> >> >> > You *can* choose to ignore the midi clock, but >> then you lose the whole >> > point of ninjam, namely that you can actually play >> in sync with others >> > online. >> > >> > For what it's worth we managed to keep two ableton >> Live computer in sync >> > over Ninjam for about an hour... a bit of nudging >> here, a bit of fiddling >> > there... >> > >> > >> > Doug Cox wrote: >> >> Kris - I saw your message on the Ninjam forums - >> interested in hearing if >> >> you ever managed to get Ninjam to run on your >> hosted server. >> >> >> >> Also, have you had any luck with synch issues? It >> seems like Ninjam >> >> forces a BPM on you, and of course, without that >> BPM being translated to >> >> a MIDI clock or similar it seems like your loops >> would eventually fall >> >> out of synch with Ninjam. Or maybe you're just >> working with very ambient >> >> pieces and ignoring the Ninjam clock? >> >> >> >> I'd love to know how to synch Ninjam's BPM with >> my looping via MIDI clock >> >> :( >> >> >> >> Anyone? >> >> >> >> Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> You install the software and then you go to >> >>> http://www.ninjam.com/jamfarm/index.php - pick a >> server and plug in the >> >>> data into the Ninjam software you >> installed...then wait for the people >> >>> to flock to you like moths to a flame. >> >>> Kris >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> *From:* romain sido >> <mailto:romainsido44@hotmail.com> >> >>> *To:* info@krispenhartung.com >> <mailto:info@krispenhartung.com> >> >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 07, 2006 8:26 AM >> >>> *Subject:* about ninjam >> >>> >> >>> hi >> >>> >> >>> im a guitar player and i heard about ninjam. >> Ive downloaded it but >> >>> i have no idea of how to use this software. >> Can you please help >> >>> me, tell me how ninjam works. >> >>> >> >>> thanks, >> >>> >> >>> bye >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ** >> >>> >> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> MSN Hotmail sur i-modeT : envoyez et recevez >> des e-mails depuis >> >>> votre téléphone portable ! >> <http://g.msn.com/8HMBFR/2740??PS=47575> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >