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Without belaboring the point too much: >>>>>>When I wanted to start a community around looping, my goal was to form a community. I hoped people would spend extended time there, and get to know one another. I wanted people to share information and collaborate on projects together. I wanted people to spend time to teach one another about looping. I wanted people to have serious, thoughtful, and respectful discussions. I wanted it to last. I wanted a community of interested people to build the whole idea of looping into something much bigger than it was. I am a part of many Message boards that have all these aspects. Creating a commuinty is far from the exclusive domain of email lists. >>>>>>>>I think that idea is destructive to our community. I also think it is hurtful to the group when people try to create some separate forum. It always feels like an attempt to split our community up. I think this might be a bit of an overreaction. It's a big world with a lot of Loopers. I don't see how a message board devoted to looping (again- I am NOT talking about LD, since it's clear most of the people here are not interested in a board-based forum- I am talking about if someone were to start a completely independent board devoted to looping)- could in any way, shape, or form be detrimental to the world community of looping musicians. No offense, but the preceeding statement certainly seems to imply that the LD mailing list is the be all & end all of the looping world, and quite frankly, it's not. I understand that you've worked on and created this list from nothing, and I very much appreciate the information & community available here. But to imply that it's a somehow negative action for someone else to attempt to begin simply a different format of communication between musicians is just downright silly, IMO. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------