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Hey Warren, I'm up in Canada, so I had to buy online, and I started with a Gitane (Saga) 250M, which is the long scale (27") "lead" guitar w/small oval hole. Cost me around $600 US from Elderly's.. VERY brash loud guitar. fast attack, quick decay.. definitely in the ballpark soundwise- but you gotta use those light silver coated 'manouche' style strings, and the guitar was shipping w/generic bronzes. Guys like Bireli Lagrene can use a 25 cent dunlop pick, but I also NEED a fat (2-3mm!!) gypsyjazz pick.. I like Wegens (at 15 bucks a pop! I've only got one!!). The big problem w/the 250M was the neck profile - skinnier than an electric 'shredder', I just couldn't get used to it, so I traded up for a John Jorgenson signature Gitane (DG300) which cost around a grand. Warmer tone (rosewood & spruce as opposed to maple) BUT BEST OF ALL, a real chunky selmeroid neck- highly recommended. Michael Horowitz @djangobooks.com has started selling a whole slew of GJ guitars, and this one's almost $200 cheaper than I paid - plus he's got a guy who'll do a setup, so the guitar'll be good to go right out the box (I've had to do some work on more than one Korean made guitar). I've bought some books, DVDs & CDs from Michael, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a guitar from him. If I ever decide to get really serious about this style, I'd probably get something a bit more upscale (Deii'Arte, maybe?) from Michael, but the DG300 is actually a pretty fine guitar.. Angelo DeBarre was playing one last time I saw him, and it sounded just as good as any Dupont, Favino, etc.. and Joscho himself was playing a Hofner!?! if memory serves, but cats like him can make anything sound good.. Hope this helps! david >From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan) >Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:42 -0400 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Rolling [mailto:david_rolling@sympatico.ca] > any of them could pull off 1 1/10 of what this guy does. > > > > I'm a long-time looper myself, but as a guitarist as well, > > Django's always > > been an inspiration to me. I recently got a Chinese-made Selmer clone > > (something else the snobs turn their noses up at - everybody > > knows you've > > got to have a $2500 guitar to play Django) but if I sat in a > > room practicing > > for 100 years, I'd still be unable to play like Joscho.. > > > > >Me neither... But what kind of guitar did you get, what'd you pay for it, >how do you like it? (if you don't mind...)