RE: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)

["David Rolling" <david_rolling@sympatico.ca>]

Warren, don't sell the vintage archtop, unless it's to feed your kids.. 
I've 
got a 'student grade' gibson plywood archtop w/a P90 that hums so loud I 
can 
only play it acoustically, BUT it is superb for all the olde-timey styles 
- 
as I'm sure yours is too.. these selmer clones are popping up everywhere 
now 
(you might recall the same thing happpening w/resophonic guitars a few 
years 
ago) so you'll probably be able to pick one up used for real cheap...

BTW, what's your vintage archtop? Love those vibey old guitars..


>From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: RE: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)
>Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:47:24 -0400
>
>Thanks for the info, David. My purchases are constrained now, but I often
>debate in my head the merits of selling my vintage archtop and using the
>proceeds for a non-vintage archtop plus... Well, who knows? One or two 
>other
>guitars, to be sure.
>
>Best wishes,
>Warren Sirota
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Rolling [mailto:david_rolling@sympatico.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:06 PM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: RE: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)
> >
> >
> > Hey Warren,
> >
> > I'm up in Canada, so I had to buy online, and I started with
> > a Gitane (Saga)
> > 250M, which is the long scale (27") "lead" guitar w/small
> > oval hole. Cost me
> > around $600 US from Elderly's.. VERY brash loud guitar. fast
> > attack, quick
> > decay.. definitely in the ballpark soundwise- but you gotta
> > use those light
> > silver coated 'manouche' style strings, and the guitar was shipping
> > w/generic bronzes. Guys like Bireli Lagrene can use a 25 cent
> > dunlop pick,
> > but I also NEED a fat (2-3mm!!) gypsyjazz pick.. I like
> > Wegens (at 15 bucks
> > a pop! I've only got one!!).
> >
> > The big problem w/the 250M was the neck profile - skinnier
> > than an electric
> > 'shredder', I just couldn't get used to it, so I traded up for a John
> > Jorgenson signature Gitane (DG300) which cost around a grand.
> > Warmer tone
> > (rosewood & spruce as opposed to maple) BUT BEST OF ALL, a
> > real chunky
> > selmeroid neck- highly recommended.
> >
> > Michael Horowitz @djangobooks.com has started selling a whole
> > slew of GJ
> > guitars, and this one's almost $200 cheaper than I paid -
> > plus he's got a
> > guy who'll do a setup, so the guitar'll be good to go right
> > out the box
> > (I've had to do some work on more than one Korean made guitar).
> >
> > I've bought some books, DVDs & CDs from Michael, and I
> > wouldn't hesitate to
> > buy a guitar from him. If I ever decide to get really serious
> > about this
> > style, I'd probably get something a bit more upscale
> > (Deii'Arte, maybe?)
> > from Michael, but the DG300 is actually a pretty fine guitar.. Angelo
> > DeBarre was playing one last time I saw him, and it sounded
> > just as good as
> > any Dupont, Favino, etc.. and Joscho himself was playing a
> > Hofner!?! if
> > memory serves, but cats like him can make anything sound good..
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > david
> >
> > >From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
> > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > >Subject: Further OT: Selmer Clones (was RE: Joscho Stephan)
> > >Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:42 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Rolling [mailto:david_rolling@sympatico.ca]
> > >  any of them could pull off 1 1/10 of what this guy does.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a long-time looper myself, but as a guitarist as
> > well, Django's
> > > > always been an inspiration to me. I recently got a Chinese-made
> > > > Selmer clone (something else the snobs turn their noses up at -
> > > > everybody knows you've
> > > > got to have a $2500 guitar to play Django) but if I sat in a
> > > > room practicing
> > > > for 100 years, I'd still be unable to play like Joscho..
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Me neither... But what kind of guitar did you get, what'd
> > you pay for
> > >it, how do you like it? (if you don't mind...)
> >
> >