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Per Boysen wrote: do you think a good price can > be achieved if enough people join up for a "group buy"? They already have a quantity discount system in place, so that shouldn't be a problem: MaxMSP: 1-4 copies: $495.00 each 5-14 copies: $297.00 each 15-24 copies: $257.40 each 25-49 copies: $198.00 each 50-99 copies: $128.70 each 100+ copies: $79.20 each Also, they have student pricing which is 250$, as far as I remember. >> I think one possible answer to this cycle lies in the flexibility of >> Max/MSP. > > Seconded! I have experienced the flexibility of scripting with Mobius > and AFAIK Max should be able to do similar things. Hehe, you better believe it ;) You could even load Mobius inside Max as well, and use max objects to control it - fractal loopin' for instance. Or serialist looping - now there's an oxymoron, hehe. > I couldn't find any statement at Cycling74's web page on their plans for > supporting Universal Binary code (Intel Macs). Anyone know about that? Apparently it's not that far off now. I'm shooting for a major release this summer.