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Jeff Kaiser wrote: > For example, my looper was first made by andrew, but then I got in > it, saw how it worked, and modified the interface to fit my > needs...the modularity and modifiability would give us all what we > want: more! One point is that the needs of each individual are very different. Andrew made the patch for you, and now you got the ideal starting point. I have every three weeks a new composer in the studio, each time I create an instrument. Each instrument is very different, but fits the needs of the piece we are working on and I try to fit it to the style and interests of the composer, that he would be able to go on on his personal path. On the other hand, to create a simple looper can be very easy. The other day I visited a composer in Paris to install the patch we made on his computer, then his children showed up, wondering what we are doing, I just opened a blank page and within half a minute the first delay was going, some seconds later I've added a feedback, and the kids couldn't stop to shout into the loop and listen to themself, constantly adapting the patch to what was flowing by... To start out I can imagine to make a little tutorial "how to a looper like (put in your favorite hardware looper)". Maybe we start with something like a DD-20. I haven't touched a hardware looper for a long time, I'd need some explanation/manual to get it going. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09