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>>Then you've got Steve Swallow whose five string is E, A, D, G, and B and he plays with a pick.<< I'm pretty certain it's a high C on Steve's bass - still tuned in fourths. Of course, you could always get a 6 string bass - then you get the Low B and the High C, and have a great range for looping... Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobasstevelawson