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mark.
I personall ycan’t afford an lp1, but if I had the money I would certainly trust the offers of a one man company-developper such as bob/looperlative.
it shows, really, when you fail to send such a messagr to the loopers list.
basically it says, that you should you shouldn’t buy off visionary developers next time really.
I am – really disappointed of such an attitude.
and I personally support a developper such as bob, even if I can’t afford such a machine myself.
think about it.
j
From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 11:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: LP1 Rant warning! (was Re: Looperlative LP1 testers)
Oops, disregard. It was meant to go to Mark T...
--- mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I'm thinking of staying with my Repeater and
> ditching
> the Looperlative. Bob's offered to take it back but
> I
> imagine he'll just sell it for his $1500 price. I'm
> not looking to make money on this, but I'd like to
> retreive my full purchase amount. $1320 gets it
> shipped to your door if you're in the USA.
>
> M
>
> --- mark t <aleatoric12@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you want to sell your LP1 i'll take it!
> >
> > On 5/2/06, mark sottilaro
> > <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > --- Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
> > >
> > > > having followed the LP1 forum for a while, I'm
> a
> > > > little bothered with the
> > > > "throw in your ideas, boys" way of develloping
> a
> > > > software.
> > >
> > > Boy howdy, Claude!! At first I thought, "what a
> > great
> > > idea, go to the people!" and then reality set
> in.
> > > People are self absorbed jerks! I'm a self
> > absorbed
> > > jerk! I'm shocked that Bob's not gone crazy by
> > this
> > > point. I can't wait for the "let's change the
> > logo
> > > thread!" ;)
> > >
> > > I can't help but feel that in some ways, maybe
> due
> > to
> > > his design by customer input, that I bought a
> beta
> > > product. The manual is poor (many features are
> > barely
> > > mentioned, let alone explained, if it wasn't for
> > Steve
> > > Lawson on the forum I probably would have
> returned
> > the
> > > LP-1), it's got outputs that aren't implemented
> in
> > any
> > > way and did ship with a fair amount of bugs.
> (many
> > > have already been found and fixed) Was a night
> of
> > my
> > > life wasted because v 1.1 refered to midi
> channels
> > as
> > > 0-15? Yes it was. Another gone because the
> midi
> > > clock sync didn't work? Yeah, that too.
> Another
> > gone
> > > because stopped tracks don't restart synced to
> the
> > > clock...
> > >
> > > Also, because of it's very open yet unfinished
> > form
> > > I'm one of those frustrated owners. It's a
> tweak
> > away
> > > from being my dream looper. (there's curently no
> > way
> > > to use the midi tracks as separate loops when
> > synced
> > > to a midi clock and have them operate like the
> EDP
> > or
> > > the Repeater does, toggling betwen them) Judging
> > from
> > > what I read on the forum you could operate it
> that
> > > way.
> > >
> > > If this was a product from a company like Roland
> > or
> > > Digitech, it would have been returned. Mostly
> > when
> > > those companies release a product it is what it
> > is.
> > > I'd have said, "Oh, this product does't operate
> > like I
> > > want it to. Bye bye." But now I have a product
> > that
> > > *may* change into what I want. This is kind of
> > odd,
> > > as rather than digging into if for what it is (a
> > very
> > > cool multi track looper), I can't help but think
> > of
> > > what it isn't and might be. LOOP TEASE!
> > >
> > > Will my tweak come? I don't know. I've put in
> > > several requests but never got a "oh that's
> slated
> > in
> > > the next release" or "no, that's not doable at
> > this
> > > time" reply. The reply was "When it comes to
> > multiple
> > > tracks, especially when combined with MIDI sync,
> > we
> > > will need to spend more time defining how you
> want
> > the
> > > software to work. The software is still young
> and
> > I'd
> > > be happy to make changes to make operate in a
> > useable
> > > fashion." How much time? Do I be patient? I
> > don't
> > > develop hardware/software loopers so I have no
> > idea
> > > what it takes in terms of time to implement
> > features.
> > > Maybe my request isn't worth Bob's time as I'm
> one
> > of
> > > few that even care about this.
> > >
> > > As it stands now it's mostly useless to me *but
> I
> > > couldn't know that based on prerelease
> > information*
> > > It's not even in my signal chain. I know I'm
> > ranting
> > > (I'm a good ranter, eh?) but $1200 left my bank
> > acount
> > > on something that's sitting on a shelf. Do I
> > wait?
> > > How long? Bob has been amazing and patient, but
> > part
> > > of me wishs that a bit more time was spent in
> > initial
> > > conception before it was released. If I knew
> that
> > > this *is* the way the LP-1 is going to be for a
> > long
> > > time, I would have passed.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying the LP-1 isn't GREAT. It is a
> > great
> > > looper. In some ways it's the best. If you're
> > not a
> > > midi clock looper, this may indeed be your box.
> > If
> > > you don't care about cuing a new loop to start
> > > recording at the end of the current loop AND
> then
> > > going back and finding the first loop still
> > perfectly
> > > synced to your drum machine, this may be your
> > looper.
> > > If you want 8 stereo channels of midi synced (or
> > not)
> > > loops that don't all have to be the same length,
> > this
> > > may be your looper.
> > >
> > > Of course Bob is on this list so he's probably
> > going
> > > to read this. Hi Bob! Bob, I like you. I like
> > the
> > > Looperlative. I could not have done anything
> like
> > > this at all. I have much respect for your hard
> > work
> > > and effort. Your ability to implement all our
> > crazy
> > > feature requests in a short time has been
> amazing.
> > > I'd have told me to fuck off a long time ago.
> In
> > a
> > > sense I wish you would. Then I could say, "is
> the
> > > LP-1 worth owning in it's current form?" and be
> > done
> > > with it. Like it is it's an itch in my brain
> that
> > I
> > > just can't scratch.
> > >
> > > Mark
>
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