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Yeah, "cheap"....? You trying to get me to bite? :-) Great to see you, Steve! RE: laptops: Absolutely fully customizable looper...no wait for looper updates if you use Max/MSP....you make them yourselves....want a new feature? add it....! (give a man a looper, he loops for a day. teach him to make a looper....my new mantra) still loving it, and latency not bothering me at all. Particularly since leaving the m-audio interface behind..... I just want too keep the options straight....laptop is is a totally VIABLE option....but I wouldn't say "cheap" in any sense of the word.... For the price, the Looperlative sounds great! and has excellent features! **************** Also: don't think I've forgotten about our project....just WAY behind on life....touring too much....would rather be in London with you sipping peppermint tea at Ray's Jazz talking about life and art and life and music and theology and politics......or resting in the pfMENTUM WORLD HEADQUARTERS and mixing..... much love to you! Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On May 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Steve Lawson wrote: > If you want 'cheap' looping, get a laptop and stick Mobius or > SooperLooper on it. I tried them and couldn't deal with the hassle of > the latency and the faff of using something as fragile as a laptop...