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There is another method of dealing with the latency - I've done it on my notebook systems before, though with my Indigo IO and Creative Labs Audigy systems, I don't have any latency that annoys me - which is that on some soundcards you can open up a direct through signal that is sort of like going from your input directly to the output. It's like a dry signal on a board or signal processor, bi-passing the sound driver. Then you can add your Mobius or VST effect signal to that. Not all systems have this capability, but it's worth checking out. The other reason why I don't do this now, aside from not having any latency issues, is that some of my VST effects need no dry signal mixed into their output...they need to be completely wet for me to get what I want from them. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: Re: Laptops and Latency... > On 9 maj 2006, at 02.32, Steve Lawson wrote: > >> The lovely Jeff said about working with MAX/MSP on a laptop - >> >>still loving it, and latency not bothering me at all. >> Particularly since leaving the m-audio interface behind.....<< >> >> one of the major differences between your music and mine is that your >> sound source is acoustic - so your relationship with latency is going >to >> be very different in that you're already dealing with two separate >> sounds - the acoustic one and the processed one. A 7-10 millisecond >> latency on that is going to be pretty hard to pick up, I'd have >> thought... >> >> For me as a bassist, especially when playing percussively, I find the >> disconnect that I feel when presented with that kind of latency is >just >> nasty. I could deal with it if I was using the direct monitoring thing >> through the soundcard, but that would then mean that I'd need an >> external processor as well, and would defeat the point of using a >> laptop. :o) > > > I agree with Steve here that latency is a universal no-no. I can deal > with latency if I'm playing with a drummer on a big stage, but only if >I > have the drums are taken out of the stage monitoring system OR turned >up > so loud that I don't hear the drums acoustically. That kind of musical > latency I can adjust to because it is the same all the time. But I can > not adapt to the latency of computer software monitoring. > > My way of dealing with this when using a laptop for looping is simple: >I > never play my instrument through the laptop. I bypass it and play > directly out through the PA, while splitting the signal and sending one > part into the software looper. With Mobius this is easy because you can > turn off the "audio through-put", so the only sound that is coming out >of > the laptop is what I have looped - and Mobius does correct the loops >for > the latency so it will loop back exactly as I played it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > > > > >