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Here is my status quo on this issue: To hell with using the computer for looping and music performance. I'm so fed up with the troubleshooting, installing, uninstalling, tweaking, loading, unloading, configuring, re-configuring, testing, rebooting, modifying, etc, etc, ad nauseum that I could projectile vomit from here to who knows where. I can tolerate only so much of this nonsense. I just used system restore to restore my new ThinkPad to the way it was when I received it out of the box. Thank goodness I had system restore active for a while before I installed this blasted software and audio hardware. I removed hundreds of dollars worth of all my audio programs, VST hosts, VST effects, Echo IO, etc. I'm going to take a break from this bullshit for a while and get back to playing my instrument with my simple two space rack: my Looperlative and two Boss VF1s. I'll just let all this software sit in archive mode for a while, so I can prioritize and get my mind right for another experimental festival I'm playing at in a few weeks. ....I should have spent my money on an evantide or Muse Receptor. I may still get the Receptor so that I can take advantage of all my VSTs. At least my ThinkPad is back to original condition so that I can use this screamin $2800 machine to check email and surf the web at my local coffee shops! :) Kris