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Just dropping in on your thread here, If you go to the Native Instruments forum you can find lots and lots of people gripping at NI because they'd rather buy Guitar Rig without the Rig Control pedal and just use a midi pedal. For myself, I bought my first midi pedal last fall and was able to use it right out of the box to control mobius standalone with no fuss or learning curve at all. It's only now that I want to start being able to control some other applications that I'm finally digging into learning how to program the darn thing.... already spent about 6 hrs with that useless excuse for manual they give.... maybe I'm just too old for this Paul Quoting Jeffrey Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com>: > Oh, and another thing...the average guitar player doesn't gig with a >laptop. > As soon as you drag a laptop into the picture, the market shrinks > dramatically and the ability to deal with midi pedals goes way up. > (Insert your favorite "average guitar player" joke here :-) > > Jeff > >