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I just got my EDP after several months of trying to figure out how to use Live 5 and a FCB1010 in a live performance situation. My conclusion was that none of the options for automating the Live 5 session view were going to meet my needs. However, Live runs like a champ as a Rewire master to Reason 3. My experience with VSTs has been that some are better integrated with some hosts than others. With Reason, new sounds don't require new virtual instruments (e.g. Miroslav refill for Reason NNXT sampler) as seems to be the case with many VSTs (in particular, those embedding Kontakt), and therefore no new MIDI controller programming. Now that I have an EDP under my feet, it seems unlikely that Live will ever compete directly against a dedicated looping box like the EDP. Live's session view is brilliant, unique, and well suited to DJing or clip shuffling in real time. A good reason in itself to favor Live over Sonar, Cubase, Protools, etc. An EDP inspired VST like Mobius would be very complementary in a performance setting. Are you able to record Mobius audio output into Live? -----Original Message----- From: Dan Ash [mailto:Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:03 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What will sync to EDP? > my attempts the last 2 nights to get StylusRMX in Sonar 5 to sync to the EDP has > resulted in Sonar freezing as soon as the midi sync button is pushed >from > within Sonar. Sonar works as a master just fine, but no-slave-can-do. A hold-over from the old days, Sonar ('Cakewalk' back then) was never very happy as slave. There are also a number of posts on the Sonar forums that point out that Sonar has problems hosting Stylus RMX. > host Mobius as master or slave depending on my situation. I ended up with > Ableton's Live 5. Now I know Sonar is a lot more robust in many ways compared > to Live but I found Live to be very good at following any clock I threw at it. I'm mainly interesting in Mobius as master, but am also looking for a stable VST host. I want to run Mobius and a few synths and effects and it doesn't seem to run at all in Sonar - also you can't record the Mobius looped output. This is a known issue/limitation based on several posts on Yahoo group 'ZoneMobius'. Tracktion version 1 as host to Mobius doesn't appear to work well - I'd like to know about Tracktion version 2 if anyone has had success. Routing in Tracktion makes me crazy and maybe there's another way, but my scheme called for two instances of Mobius. Had bad problems with midi delay and getting both instances to respond to the same midi message from ny footcontroller (FCB1010). REAPER (in beta) as host to Mobius is still unstable on my system (Dell 8400 w/ MOTU Traveler under WinXPPro). Best stability so far is in Ableton Live! 5.2 (I am using the demo until I decide it's the right solution). Dan Ash White Plains, NY __________ NOD32 1.1660 (20060714) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. part000.txt - file is not an archive http://www.eset.com