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RE: What will sync to EDP?



I just got my EDP after several months of trying to figure out how to use
Live 5 and a FCB1010 in a live performance situation. My conclusion was 
that
none of the options for automating the Live 5 session view were going to
meet my needs. However, Live runs like a champ as a Rewire master to Reason
3. My experience with VSTs has been that some are better integrated with
some hosts than others. With Reason, new sounds don't require new virtual
instruments (e.g. Miroslav refill for Reason NNXT sampler) as seems to be
the case with many VSTs (in particular, those embedding Kontakt), and
therefore no new MIDI controller programming. 

Now that I have an EDP under my feet, it seems unlikely that Live will ever
compete directly against a dedicated looping box like the EDP. Live's
session view is brilliant, unique, and well suited to DJing or clip
shuffling in real time. A good reason in itself to favor Live over Sonar,
Cubase, Protools, etc. An EDP inspired VST like Mobius would be very
complementary in a performance setting. 

Are you able to record Mobius audio output into Live?

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Ash [mailto:Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:03 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: What will sync to EDP?

 > my attempts the last 2 nights to get StylusRMX in Sonar 5 to sync to 
the EDP has
>  resulted in Sonar freezing as soon as the midi sync button is pushed 
>from
>  within Sonar. Sonar works as a master just fine, but no-slave-can-do.

A hold-over from the old days, Sonar ('Cakewalk' back then) was never 
very happy as slave.  There are also a number of posts on the Sonar 
forums that point out that Sonar has problems hosting Stylus RMX.

 > host Mobius as master or slave depending on my situation. I ended up with
 > Ableton's Live 5. Now I know Sonar is a lot more robust in many ways 
compared
 > to Live but I found Live to be very good at following any clock I 
threw at it.

I'm mainly interesting in Mobius as master, but am also looking for a 
stable VST host. I want to run Mobius and a few synths and effects and 
it doesn't seem to run at all in Sonar - also you can't record the 
Mobius looped output.  This is a known issue/limitation based on several 
posts on Yahoo group 'ZoneMobius'.

Tracktion version 1 as host to Mobius doesn't appear to work well - I'd 
like to know about Tracktion version 2 if anyone has had success.  
Routing in Tracktion  makes me crazy and maybe there's another way, but 
my scheme called for two instances of Mobius.  Had bad problems with 
midi delay and getting both instances to respond to the same midi 
message from ny footcontroller (FCB1010). 

REAPER (in beta) as host to Mobius is still unstable on my system (Dell 
8400 w/ MOTU Traveler under WinXPPro).

Best stability so far is in Ableton Live! 5.2 (I am using the demo until 
I decide it's the right solution).

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY


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