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>I ve done what u said trying every >pedal at a time and adding yet when they are all >off,the signal with the effects in between instrument >and amp and guitar direct results in volume >decrease.If its due to the "true bypass" deal(which >sometime is still unclear to my which efxs are and >which arent,arent all boss ture bypass?) Is a pedal true bypass? To find out, take out the battery and see if the signal passes through when the FX is off. A true bypass is a needs more expensive type of switch, and Boss/Roland love to save pennies, so I wouldn't expect them to have true bypass as standard. My OC-2 doesn't have it, just checked with a meter. That's a lot of pedals, which means a lot of connectors, and a lot of leads. So plenty of room for problems with the leads, if you just bought them rather than making them up yourself then they could be the problem. andybutler