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And thinking about it a little more, since you have 3 phrases (loops) available you can spread your single phrase out across three and bring them in as is musically useful. Fading and reverse seem to be very nice in this context. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Michael Marsh [mailto:michaelmarsh@san.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:43 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-50 and Feedback Hello All - I know there is a lot of traffic already on this topic, but maybe you'll forgive one more contribution. As I understand it, and clearly I'm not a veteran looper, feedback is used to fade out parts of a phrase while other parts continue. This is done for musical reasons and sometimes because loops get "too dense". Do I have that right? If so, then a simple strategy for using the RC-50 in this way is to use FADE on stopping a loop. Recall that you have 3 separate phrases available, so that as one phrase fades out you can be looping on another. It's easy enough to erase a loop while another is playing so you could rotate the three phrases at will. Maybe you could reserve one phrase of the three for rhythm or other base music, and cycle two phrases for fading. I've tried both strategies and they work well. The RC-50 is a deep unit, which is both a blessing and a curse. Clearly you need to spend time with it to get maximum benefit from it, but hey, I've spent 35 years with my guitar(s) and *still* haven't mastered it. In my opinion, the RC-50 is extremely musical and flexible, but so are other units. "It's In The Way That You Use It". Mike