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Anything I could add to this abstruse discussion has already been said by the late JBS Haldane: "Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose." "If one could conclude as to the nature of the Creator from a study of his creation it would appear that God has a special fondness for stars and beetles." Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettles.com