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Hi Ted That totally describes me too. Mac guy from way back. Love those little computers. I've been doing graphic design and music on them for years. Still do. However... Evil forces (and there are always evil forces) at work have made it so there's significantly less audio stuff out there for Macs. Yeah yeah, run XP on a Macbook... but why? When I asked myself that question I couldn't really find a compelling answer. So I dove in to the PC world. First thing I noticed is that the new Mac ads are pretty correct. The personality of each OS is dead on in those commercials and if you don't protect your PC from the outside world you'll have trouble. Also XP has a nerdy geek built in that wants to constantly bug you with stuff you don't want to know/do/hear. Microsoft's idea of being helpful is that animated paperclip. With a day of research and stuff I was able to kill that idiot... not I just have a stable (with an ugly GUI) OS that runs my apps. Most of the time Live 5, Mobius and Reaktor are taking up all my pixels so "whatever." I just want it to work and it does. So... my next plan is to upgrade my main desktop. What will it be? No doubt it will be a G5... XP is fine, but when push comes to shove I'd rather to it with a Mac as much as I can. Mark --- tEd � kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote: > Krisp, > > I'm enjoying this discussion -- even though it is > taking on certain > aspects of > an behavior altering "intervention" at my expense . > . . heheheh. I love > all of > you guys too. > > Another slight hiccup in the plan is I already have > a few computers and > one > laptop, all of which are Macintoshes. I am a long > time graphic designer > type > and only slightly speak "PC" if you know what I > mean. I know just > enough to > be able to turn one on an launch a simple program or > game. check my > e-mail > and turn the thing off again. In other words . . . > on a PC . . . I'm > useless. > > I am a fairly "expert" level user on a Mac (in > general) 'cuz I've been > using > them continuously since the mid to late '80s. I have > an M-Box and > ProTools > and can record audio. I even have a Live, Reason, > and a bunch of other > bits > of software that came bundled with the M-Box and > some other software > packages I've purchased over the years. > > It won't be cheap getting a Mac computer that'll do > all the stuff I > want to do. I'm > sure my current little iBook doesn't have the > horsepower to run all of > that stuff. > Plus, family budget considerations will not likely > allow that I can buy > a lappy > of any sort JUST to do music stuff with it. All of > my computer > purchases so > far have been serious professional graphic business > tools that I could > write > off as business expenses at tax time. > > Yeah, yeah, yeah. Excuses, excuses, excuses . . . > > Peace y'all! > > Ted > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > Ted, the trick is to build your computer system on > the side so that > > you don't have to go without full functioning > system for any period of > > time...then you can transition slowly into the > notebook system.� Once > > you get your notebook computer and sound card, > then we can help you > > build a basic system for very low cost. Get an > inexpensive VST host > > like Chainer, EnergyXT, or Plogue Bidule (all less > than $100), and > > then take advantage of the thousands of free VST > effects out there.� > > You will be amazed at how many effects you can > replace in your > > hardware system with just free VSTs...astounding. > > � > > ...then, once you get that basic notebook system > up and running, you > > can start selling one hardware effect at a time to > purchase more > > expensive and higher quality VST effects and > hosts.� You could buy > > sophisticated VST effect systems like Reaktor, > PSP84 and PSP42, > > Pluggo, Hipno, etc. And you could get more > sophisticated VST�hosts, > > like�MAX/MSP, if you�choose. �Next thing you know, > you have gradually > > replaced every cell in your guitar system body > with a new cell...hope > > you like the analogy. > > � > > So, there is a relatively easy way to make the > transition without it > > being too painful, radical, or costly. > > � > > Kris > > � __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com