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good speach, Garreth! >What I feel we must aspire to is pure music. Stuff you can pop on >the CD player and love without regard for the way it was made. I agree that this is an important quality if someone fascinates with a good show and lesser interesting music, thats another quality, otherwise you would say that a Circus is useless. >I got into looping because I loved hearing the effect of dense >textures building a world of majestically repeating, spiralling >sound. exactly! This also happens to non musicians! thats why I had the idea that on a site like livelooping.com we could support each other by offering more music and info to customers who find some of our work somewhere and want more of it. >What I want to know is. How sucessful are you at separating process >from product? I do have clients that listen just to the CD and dont care about how its done. I gave a CD of mine to a simple citizan of my neighbourhood and month later when I walked through that street, I heard my music! Is that the kind of success you are talking about? >Maybe you don't think they should be separated. Maybe you think I'm wrong. you are right, its different qualities... >maybemaybemaybemaybmaybmabmaymaymamamamammmmmmmmmmm :-) -- ---> http://www.matthiasgrob.com