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Do you think video looping is too off topic for Loopers Delight? I've been doing a series of loop videos in Sony Vegas (which is exactly analogous to the way Sony ACID chops and manipulates audio loops) using a very cheap Radio Shack digital camera that will only shoot 30 second, very, very lo fi videos. I'm finally beginning to be a little frustrated by the 30 second limitation and am considering buying an inexpensive digital video camera Can anyone advise me on something that is either 1) brand new and inexpensive but impressive in terms of quality? or 2) something that is trailing edge technology that is still malleable and of decent quality. I don't have very much money but I'm loving doing this work to accompany my next cd of Abstract Electronica (that is heavily loop based but not real time loop based), "ORANGE" due on a DVD multi-media format in time for Y2k6. I appreciate the advice in advance. If people are offended by this post (for being off topic) please forgive me and just write me offlist. yours, Rick Walker