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The EH 16 second delay has this feature in the latest version. You simply set the 'coarse' slider to >32 bars and it eliminates the count-in and allows you to set the tempoby tapping the loop length. Failing that, I have a completely upgraded Jamman for sale... -CZ >By Push-Play-Push...I mean you click the pedal to start recording, >you play what you want to record, and then you press the pedal again >to start playback and define the length of your loop. With some >loopers you have to pre-define the length, and this is useless to >me. The Lexicon JamMan looks like it might be what I'm looking >for...and I find them for cheaper than you say on eBay. > >Also, are there any loopers not on the loopers-delight website? >Because I have yet to find one that isn't on the site. -- ... http://www.zmix.net