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Yes,very interesting topic,last year i did a promo interview at the independent Radio Frontera in Tijuana Baja California.As one of the tracks on my CD(wasserfall) was being played i was explaining briefly the proccess to the interviewer which he found interesting and enjoyable.But Then there is a glitching section at the end of the track which sounds like the CD is skipping and he snapped and turned to the broadcaster who was playing the CD behind the glass cabin thinking there was something wrong and i told him no no, its ok, its part of the music,please let it play further;-) This experience was also sort of a revelation to me... because the song itself is not loop tech complicated at all,i wasnt thinking in the begining about loop pyro technics at all,i just played some simple canon notes and improvised on top of it which can sound pleasing to the normal listener.The funny thing is that because of lack of ideas it was totally improvised in an inocent subconcious way and to my surprise it happens to be the song that people seem to enjoy the most,in fact i put it up in myspace for download after request: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=49546016 sometimes i worry that my ear will indulge too much into repetition which can be unpleasant for other people... Luis --- Steve Lawson <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> wrote: > Some interesting stuff coming through on this topic > (that which I've > had the time to read, anyway). > > My own way of dealing with this, philosophically is > to not think > about the looping aspect of it unless I have to, but > instead to try > and conceive the 'music' first in an of itself. > Having spent a lot of > years playing loop-based music, I already quite > naturally hear form > in a loop-influenced way, so don't tend to need to > force things. > Occasionally I'll be looking for a different kind of > arrangement, and > then I go to my tools at hand to see if it's going > to be possible... > the ever-growing feature-list of the Looperlative > certainly helps in > this area. > > But I have, for the most part, avoided > self-consciously labeled 'loop > music'. There are some people who do much more > 'loop-essential' music > than I that do it incredibly well - Bill Walker, it > seems to me, > exploits his looping boxes in a more obviously loop > based way > (especially his ultra-rhythmic synced stuff), but > his boundless > musicality comes through in a way that makes it > sound like the > technology was made for him. Likewise Claude Voit - > quite obviously > loop designed music in the rhythmic/repetitive mode, > but not even > remotely 'dull' or 'tedious' - just great music > making use of the > arrangement possibilities of his chosen hardware. > > What's most notable is that great music is > unhindered by tech or lack > of. The great musicians are the ones who enslave the > technology to > their musical ends, but also allow it to liberate > their musical > sensibilities into otherwise impossible arrangement > options, but > still hear it and present it as music, where the > fundamentals of > music, be they melodic, rhythmic, textural, cultural > or onomatopoeic, > carry through to the audience, and the geekability > of the loopage is > an added bonus not a necessary diversion from the > unsatisfactory > listening experience. > > just a thought or two... > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com