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On 28 sep 2006, at 07.49, Warren Sirota wrote: > How do you create a swell with destructive feedback, anyway? As I > recall, at > least on the EDP, no matter where you set the feedback knob, the > volume of > the loop never increases without new input. You can "pump" the feedback knob/pedal to decrease/increase playback level. On the EDP this works as long as you stay in the same loop round ( I think...). This will create tremolo or quick fade-in/out effects in the audio. This is a technique I'm using a lot for playing the EDP as well as Mobius (where you have the infinite Undo/Redo history to go back if you should overdo it by mistake) > It still seems to me that the destructive nature of the feedback is an > implementation artifact rather than a feature. Yes, I think you are correct IF we are talking about "using feedback as a way to cheat a fading function". But Feedback is a completely different function compared to Fading. Anyone interested should try to PLAY with these function and learn what they are good, and less good, for. > Per said: >> >> One good thing with using feedback to fade out a loop is that you >> simply reduce the feedback a little and then you are free to >> do other >> things like looping on a different channel/looper while the first >> channel/loop fades out by feedback layer downscaling. > On 28 sep 2006, at 05.57, Warren Sirota wrote: > And this is different than fading a track or group of tracks while > playing > or looping on others? Yes. A lot different. > I'm beginning to feel like we're talking about the > same thing with different words here.... I think you feel that way because you just don't need that particular functionality that sets feedback and fading apart. I too design my my looping rig from my musical need, as opposed to designing it from "feature specifications" and I think that is very important. I especially take care to cut out, from my palette, everything that I don't need to be creative. At least for myself, I think it's much easier to create interesting music/sound when you have less options to keep instantly accessible in your working imagination. "Kill your darlings" as we say ;-) BTW I have different knobs/faders/pedals for two types of feedback (as those "pedals interface modes" of the EDP) as well as looper/ track level. IMHO they are all different tools. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom